Tech
DeepSeek Deep Dive + Hands-On With Operator + Hot Mess Express!
Listen to and follow ‘Hard Fork’Apple | Spotify | Amazon | YouTube | iHeartRadio Hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton Produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones Edited by Rachel Dry Engineered by Daniel Powell Original music by Dan Powell and Diane …
Listen to and follow ‘Hard Fork’
Apple | Spotify | Amazon | YouTube | iHeartRadio
Hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton
Produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones
Edited by Rachel Dry
Engineered by Daniel Powell
Original music by Dan Powell and Diane Wong
This week we go even deeper on DeepSeek. ChinaTalk’s Jordan Schneider joins us to explain the Chinese A.I. industry and to break down the reaction inside of China to DeepSeek’s sudden success. Then … hello, Operator! We put OpenAI’s new agent software to the test. And finally, all aboard for another ride on the Hot Mess Express!
Guest:
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Jordan Schneider, founder and editor in chief of ChinaTalk
Additional Reading:
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Why DeepSeek Could Change What Silicon Valley Believes About A.I.
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OpenAI launches its agent
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Fable, a Book App, Makes Changes After Offensive A.I. Messages
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Amazon Pauses Drone Deliveries After Aircraft Crashed in Rain

Credit…Sciepro/Science Photo Library, via Getty Images
Credits
“Hard Fork” is hosted by Kevin Roose and Casey Newton and produced by Rachel Cohn and Whitney Jones. This episode was edited by Rachel Dry and fact-checked by Ena Alvarado. Our executive producer is Jen Poyant. Engineering by Daniel Powell, with original music by Dan Powell and Diane Wong.
Special thanks to Paula Szuchman, Pui-Wing Tam, Dahlia Haddad and Jeffrey Miranda.





